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AN ULSTER LOYALIST SPEAKS OUT

An exclusive interview with George Seawright

George Seawright, photographed removing a Republican tricolour from a Belfast building in 1985. Tragically he was to be murdered by Republicans in 1987.

GEORGE Seawright is a leading member of the Democratic Unionist Party. He is a member of both the Ulster Assembly and the Belfast City Council. He was also the defeated DUP candidate in the North Belfast constituency in the last General Election.

Mr. Seawright is a highly respected Loyalist politician and is very active in the campaign for the segregation of Loyalist prisoners. Nationalism Today is pleased to be able to publish this exclusive interview with him.

• How exactly do you see your role as a member of the new Ulster Assembly and how are you using your position in the Assembly to further the Loyalist cause?

Since both the Socialist and Conservative Governments have used Direct Rule to stifle and override the wishes of the Ulster Loyalists, any constitutional vehicle such as the Assembly which enables us to bridle such Direct Rule is very important. The main power of the Assembly at present is that of scrutinising Government decisions in the various Committees. The Republican element have shown their fear of the Assembly by attempting to wreck it by boycott.

Since I represent a constituency both in the Assembly and on the Belfast City Council which has borne the brunt of Republican terrorism, I feel that the Assembly provides a platform to speak up for my people who have suffered so much over the last 13 years.

• Do you consider yourself to be a hard-liner and would you put yourself down as being on the militant end or the 'moderate' end of the Loyalist political spectrum?

The aim of both the IRA and the INLA terrorists is the genocide of the majority Protestant community. They are determined to exterminate or drive out the Loyalist population. The Ulster 'troubles' are a war for the surviyal of the Loyalist people and there is no room for moderates in such a struggle. I suppose I could be called 'hardline' in that I believe in the total eradication of the armed forces of Republicanism, and am opposed to any political compromise with the enemies of the state. The fate of the Rhodesian whites, teaches us where political compromise and moderation lead to.

• What is your attitude to the Loyalist Prisoners in Long Kesh and elsewhere? Do you believe that they should be treated in the same way as Republican Prisoners or do you believe they should be treated completely

differently? Are you in favour of segregation of Loyalist Prisoners from Republicans?

Before the 'troubles' Ulster had the lowest percentage prison population of any part of the UK. The majority community have always been hard working and law-abiding. It was only when the IRA terrorists seemed to be getting away with their crimes that Loyalist people in despair retaliated and as a result there are Loyalist prisoners today. I believe that the vast majority of Loyalist prisoners are patriots who although they may have acted illegally, believed they were protecting their homes, families and country in the face of a breakdown of law and order and the abject failure of the government todeal with terrorism.

I fully endorse the campaign for the segregation of Loyalist Prisoners, as being a minority in the prisons they are, in my opinion, at daily risk of injury or even death at the hands of Republican prisoners who heavily outnumber them.

• Where do you stand on other national issues such as the Common Market, unemployment and immigration?

Regarding national issues, my policy could be summed up in the words "Britain First". I believe that our membership of the Common Market has been a disaster for Britain both economically and politically. It has weakened our national sovereignty and made the laws and Parliament of the UK subservient to the dictates of Brussels. I view the EEC as part of a deliberate design by 'International Finance' to bring about an eventual 'world government' under their control in which nation states would cease to exist.

On the immigration issue, I believe that a Britain with 3 million unemployed has no room for 3 million or more immigrants not of our indigenous ethnic stock. I believe that native-born Britons should have priority in jobs and houses. I believe that immigrants should be encouraged by the government to return to their country of origin and no further waves of aliens permitted to enter. Present government policy could well produce a racial bloodbath in the 'inner cities' of Britain.

I deplore the millions spent on aid to countries in Asia and Africa whilst cuts are made in Britain which are harmful to our Education and Health Services,

• Recently six people were arrested when the National Front attacked an Irish Republican meeting in Camden, North London. How do you look upon activities such as this, and how do you view organisations such as the National Front?

It is understandable that patriots on the mainland should be provoked by public displays of IRA activity when one considers such atrocities against our soldiers as Warren-point, Ballykelly and the bombs in London and Birmingham.

As to the NF I welcome every sign of a resurgence of patriotism throughout the UK. Every attempt is being made by the 'one-worlders' to make us ashamed of our National Identity, this trend must be reversed. I especially welcome the vigorous support given by the NF to the Ulster Loyalist cause down the years. I only wish more people on the mainland would take the trouble to find out the facts and speak up as you have done.

• What do you think of the majority of MPs in Parliament and, in particular, their attitudes towards Republicanism?

Unfortunately the vast majority of MPs lacking the basic philosophy of British Patriotism have proved their weakness on most vital issues, not the least being Ulster. With a small number of exceptions MPs of all parties fail to see that we are engaged in a war against dedicated terrorists who will stop at nothing. They seem to think Republicanism can be bought off by political concessions and solutions at the expense of the majority. Every concession serves to encourage the IRA and INLA to press on to their ultimate goal. Republicanism can never be placated, it must be destroyed.

• Ideally, what action would you wish to see from the Westminster Parliament as regards the 'troubles' in Northern Ireland?

Ideally, the Westminster Parliament must recognise the state of war that exists in Ulster and it must be won. There must be a commitment to military victory over the armed forces of Republicanism before progress can be made. They should restore a system of Devolved Government to Ulster based on the principle of majority rule (which they insisted on in Rhodesia) and they should give a commitment that Ulster is British forever.

• Finally, how do you see future developments unfolding and what do you see as being necessary for the long-term prosperity and freedom of Britain in general and Ulster in particular?

The destiny of Ulster is tied inseparably to the rest of the UK. Britain must become a sovereign power assuming full responsibility for the safety and well being of its citizens, clearly recognising that anything which threatens this ideal is to be identified for the enemy it is. There is nothing more obnoxious to me than a false patriotism which claims to love the country but has no concern for the people. True patriotism manifests itself by a genuine concern not only for the nation as a unit but for the total welfare of the citizens who make up the nation. As for Ulster, political and economic progress will only come when the last armed Republican has been dealt with, as Loyalism and Republicanism can never peacefully co-exist.